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		<title>The Facebook Debate: Pages vs Profiles</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this week&#8217;s episode of the IMTW Podcast, Paul Colligan and I discussed Ed Dale&#8217;s blog post regarding Facebook&#8217;s update to their TOS (terms of service). 
This is the episode where I called Facebook UNsocial.
To catch you up, here are the posts from Ed &#38; Paul on the topic:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week&#8217;s episode of the <a href="http://www.internetmarketingthisweek.com/2009/08/28/the-one-where-lynn-terry-calls-facebook-unsocial-internet-marketing-this-week-21/">IMTW Podcast</a>, Paul Colligan and I discussed Ed Dale&#8217;s blog post regarding Facebook&#8217;s update to their TOS (terms of service). </p>
<p><strong>This is the episode where I called Facebook <u>UN</u>social.</strong></p>
<p>To catch you up, here are the posts from Ed &#38; Paul on the topic:</p>
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<li>Ed Dale: <a href="http://tubbynerd.com/2009/08/12/facebook-lowering-the-boom-on-5000-friends/" target="_blank">Facebook Lowering The BOOM on “5000 friends”</a></li>
<li>Paul Colligan: <a href="http://www.paulcolligan.com/2009/08/15/about-the-facebook-changes/" target="_blank">About The Facebook Changes</a></li>
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<p>Of specific interest is #2 in the new TOS as highlighed by Ed Dale in this image:</p>
<p><img src="http://internet-marketing-superstar.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/06ec0_20090811-eiu54f4eawmmiqb68hn719pic7.preview.jpg"></p>
<p>Ed said, <em>&#8220;This is the real tragedy of these so called Facebook experts &#8211; by getting people to build their profile &#8211; they have built a sand castle that will be swept out with the tide of the new TOS&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
<p><span></span></p>
<p>Hmm. Personally, I think that 2nd point in the TOS needs a little clarification. In case the image is not clear on your end, it reads: </p>
<p><strong>You will not use your personal profile for your own commercial gain (such as selling your status update to an advertiser).</strong></p>
<p>I assume this comes on the heels of <a href="http://www.clicknewz.com/1891/ftc-to-regulate-social-media/">proposed FTC regulations</a> of social media, as well as services like: pay-per-post, pay-per-tweet and maybe even pay-per-spam-your-friends-on-facebook.</p>
<p>The recommendation is to set up a Facebook PAGE for any commercial purposes, and keep Facebook Profiles as they were intended &#8211; to exchange updates with friends and family. If I understand Paul &#38; Ed correctly, they intend to keep their personal profiles restricted to their &#8220;real life&#8221; friends and family. In fact, Paul is in the process of following Ed&#8217;s footsteps in removing all business connections and business peers from his profile, and encouraging them to &#8220;fan&#8221; his page instead.</p>
<p>I say to each his own. Facebook is a <strong>social networking</strong> site, and one where I have made a lot of new friends. It&#8217;s a place on the web where I have an opportunity to be a bit more personal and friendly with my business peers and my high school friends alike. My profile is as it should be &#8211; it&#8217;s all about me. My profile is a mash-up of all of the things I am: mother, friend, business owner, goofball, traveler, etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/ClickNewz-Internet-Marketing-Blog/55669640508"><img src="http://internet-marketing-superstar.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/db3ac_facebook-fan-page.jpg"></a>You may recall that I set up a <a href="http://www.clicknewz.com/1871/professional-facebook-page/">Facebook Page</a> back in March, following one of their better updates. Up to that point I hadn&#8217;t been real interested in Facebook, but since those updates I&#8217;ve actually logged in several times a week &#8211; and even enjoy it! Though I still don&#8217;t really care for public restrooms but that&#8217;s another post on another blog&#8230;</p>
<p>My Facebook Page allows to you &#8220;become a fan&#8221; of ClickNewz, by the way &#8211; not of me personally. I&#8217;m not really into the idea of running a &#8220;Lynn Terry Fan Club&#8221;. <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The page is a nice option for people who would prefer to get business-only updates, and skip any random chitter chatter from me about how my day is going or the latest cute picture of my kids.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a huge Facebook user, by the way. At the time of this post I have 1,070 friends on Facebook, and 163 fans to the ClickNewz page.</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;m NOT going to go through the trouble of un-friending every single NRL (not-real-life) friend on Facebook. That would leave me with about&#8230; 3 friends. Not to mention it&#8217;s a lot of work, and seems pretty unnecessary to me. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the issue of new friend requests. Let&#8217;s say you set up a personal profile, and then set up a Facebook Page for your business or brand. Every time someone finds you on Facebook and sends you a friend request, you either have to ignore it or deny it &#8211; and then ask them to &#8220;fan you&#8221; instead. That just seems&#8230; UNsocial. Rude even.</p>
<p><strong>My question is: just how does Facebook define &#8220;commercial gain&#8221;?</strong></p>
<p>Does commercial gain include indirect gain, as well as direct gain. A link to your latest blog post, for example &#8211; indirect. An affiliate link to a product you&#8217;re promoting &#8211; direct. And are they going to police every single profile, or allow the community to police profiles with a &#8220;report user&#8221; feature?</p>
<p>And what if my <strong>friend</strong> Nicole Dean posts a message on my wall, asking for the sign-up link to the next NAMS Workshop. Do I ignore her? How about if post on my <strong>friend</strong> Kathleen Gage&#8217;s wall, to discuss her upcoming teleseminar. Like I said, point #2 needs more clarification.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t do a lot of &#8220;marketing&#8221; on Facebook. I post a link now and then, mainly just relevant updates and interesting points for discussion. As I said above, I&#8217;m not going to jump through hoops over this. And I&#8217;m not going to force my &#8220;friends&#8221; to &#8220;fan&#8221; me. Those who want to will, and that&#8217;s great. </p>
<p>And even if I&#8217;m forced into <strong>UNsocial UNnetworking</strong> at Facebook&#8230; to be honest, it&#8217;s not going to make or break my business.</p>
<p>And hey &#8211; I still have my friends! <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> *cheers*</p>
<p>Facebook has always been a place where I simply network and hang out. My real work is done at my blog, my website, through my newsletter, etc. &#8220;Lynn Terry the Internet Marketer&#8221; only represents a percentage of what I do online anyway. </p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t say that Facebook has contributed much to my bottom line this year. But yeah &#8211; you get out what you put in, and I haven&#8217;t really invested in &#8220;Facebook Marketing&#8221;.</p>
<p>As far as that goes, this news is just one more point towards the reasons you should be investing in your own properties &#38; domains&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Facebook Pages vs Profiles</strong></p>
<p>The last 4 months have given me an opportunity to play around with the options and features, and get a feel for the differences between a Profile and a Page.</p>
<p>There are a couple of major CONS to Pages: </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get update notifications when someone comments on or posts on your wall. Nothing. You actually have to remember to log in to your page and check it yourself &#8211; and hope someone didn&#8217;t post something that&#8217;s buried on another page. Personally, I think that&#8217;s ridiculous. Send me a notification already!</p>
<p>Also, your Page doesn&#8217;t append to your Profile in any way. There is no obvious link or note for your friends to see that you have a cool Facebook Page they might want to &#8220;fan&#8221;. If I&#8217;m wrong about this, call me stupid and <em>please</em> point me to how to set it up. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even get to my OWN Facebook Page without digging through layers!</p>
<p>Of course, there are PROS to Facebook Pages too, features that the Profiles don&#8217;t offer. The primary upside being that you can email all of your &#8220;fans&#8221;. To be honest, I have never emailed my Facebook Fans. I would prefer true Fans actually subscribe here at ClickNewz as I doubt I&#8217;ll ever send out an email via Facebook. </p>
<p>Probably because I hate getting them myself &#8211; it really clutters up my Facebook Inbox when I&#8217;m trying to respond to messages from my <strong>friends</strong>.</p>
<p>The other cool feature of Facebook Pages is that they offer you stats:</p>
<p><img src="http://internet-marketing-superstar.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/db3ac_facebook-stats2.jpg"></p>
<p>(I told you I don&#8217;t have many Fans! &#8211; lol)</p>
<p>The stats are cool, but they aren&#8217;t a huge revelation to me. It&#8217;s actually a very small sampling of what my overall reach is online across the board. About half and half male/female, ages 25-55. </p>
<p>So there you have it. If Facebook bans me for talking business, or networking with my business friends, you can always find me here at ClickNewz <img src='http://www.clicknewz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,<br />
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